London is home to some of the wealthiest â and most philanthropic â people in the world. In this series of interviews, we ask why they do it and how to encourage others to give
As told to Selma Day
How does running your charity compare to success in business?
Itâs very, very different. Success in business is more hard-headed and measurable in terms of money and prestige. The charity, although itâs still quite hard-headed in running it  commercially, itâs got a really soft side â an empathetic side.
The business success gives you pride, success and money but it doesnât give you a spiritual reward. The charity still gives you success, but in a different way. It gives you no money â in fact, it takes your money, but gives you spiritual success.
It must be incredibly rewarding to know you are making a difference?
It is hugely rewarding. I regularly meet parents and theyâll come up to me and say what an amazing difference weâve made to their child. And that really is a motivator â not that I need to be motivated. I donât feel Iâve got an option. I donât feel Iâve got a choice. But when I get that warmth and gratitude from somebody whose life Iâve helped to change, I know even more why I do it.
Do you run the charity in an entrepreneurial way?
The charity has always been very entrepreneurial in its makeup â in the way that weâve tried to find new ways of fundraising, and also in the accountability, because everything we do should always be the very best deal, therefore making the donorsâ money spread the furthest it possibly can.
And itâs one of the reasons I fund the operating and administrative expenses, because nobody has to worry that their pound is getting diluted down in wages or cars or whatever.
As someone in your position, do you feel a responsibility to give back to society?
I donât like the term âgiving backâ because it implies youâve got an onus to do that. And I donât think anybodyâs got an onus to do anything. I never think about it as giving back â I donât feel the need to give back. If you say youâre going to give back, it makes it sound as though youâve had something. I havenât had anything â Iâve fought like fury for my wealth. But I do feel compelled to make other peopleâs lives better and am privileged to do so.
Youâve pledged 70 per cent of your wealth to charity as part of the giving pledge. Why?
Well, when I sold the business in 2006, I ended up with about ÂŁ1.2 billion. And I thought, what am I going to do with that, because I knew I didnât want to leave it to my descendants. I didnât want to leave them with no money. But I didnât want all of that going [to them]. And it was a burden. I mean, it literally was a burden.
And I thought, what am I going to do with all this money? And I realised that the right thing to do was to pledge to give it to charity.
So I decided to give 50 per cent away to charity during or after my lifetime. And then some years later, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett set up the Giving Pledge. So I thought, well, Iâve already done that so I might as well join them. Then maybe two or three years later, I thought 50 per cent wasnât enough, because it would still leave me giving too much away to my descendants. So I increased it to 70 per cent. Iâm not necessarily finished there â it depends on how much money I make with my commercial projects. The more money I make, the more likely I am to increase the percentage.
Thereâs a perception that philanthropy is a luxury of the wealthy. Do you agree?
Whatâs wrong with some luxury if you are helping? I always say to people, it doesnât matter what your motive is in life â it doesnât matter whether itâs pure philanthropy, whether itâs to be seen to be philanthropic, or whether itâs to chase an OBE, CBE or a knighthood. It doesnât matter what you call it, because those kids are not bothered what your motive is. If your motive is pure heart, then thatâs wonderful. But the kids donât know any different. So it doesnât really matter. If you want to be seen putting your hand up and everybody thinking youâre wonderful, thatâs great â you are wonderful. Whatever your reason is, just do it. Because those kids are all going to be grateful for the way youâve changed their lives.
How do you encourage other people to get involved?Â
Just do it and take the honour. You can be a private giver. But I encourage people to be public, because we all need to influence each other and it can be contagious. If we could get to a point where the majority of billionaires were in the Giving Pledge, the ones that werenât would be positively influenced to join. Now, you can sit round a table with 10 billionaires, and less than one in 10 is in the Giving Pledge. But just imagine if seven in 10 were in the Giving Pledge â the other three would probably feel a bit mean.
Are young people interested in philanthropy?
I think before you can be massively philanthropic, youâve got to make your own money and make your own life. I wasnât philanthropic, really, until I was about 40 years old, when I was able to fulfil the second part of my ambition, to be philanthropic â the first being to be wealthy and successful. It doesnât mean you donât do kindness, or you donât donate a bit here and there. Even if itâs only a pound in a raffle tin. Everybody can do a tiny bit.
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John Caudwell
Mayfair resident and self-made billionaire John Caudwell devotes most of his time to his lifelong philanthropic ambitions and, as a signatory to the Giving Pledge, he is committed to donating at least 70 per cent of his wealth to charitable causes during and after his lifetime. Having achieved success with his businesses, including Phones 4u, he set up his own charity, Caudwell Children, which aims to improve the lives of disabled and autistic children. More recently, he launched Caudwell Youth, which supports young people aged 11 to 24 with a range of needs, through person-centred volunteer mentoring.




